Also, can anyone make a comment as to whether a sunroof this size compromises the safety element of the car? What did I do? You’ve been warned! Deeroatmeal. The only roof that gave me problems was the Chrysler 300. I’ve owned vehicles with regular sunroofs for years and never had this to happen. My 2015 genesis ultimate 3.8 awd panaromic sunroof literally came off the tracks while open at highway speeds then proceeded to open and close leaving it in a limped position unable to fully retract. Thanks. Interesting – my 2015 C250 did exactly the same thing last week, still in warranty but MB will not accept it exploded but say it was a stone chip which could have happened some time ago. But, why didn’t you stress the explosive sunroofs?! It terms of the risks of it gets faulty, I see no difference to it and the electric windows they can also be faulty. Actually this is my second merc with sunroof, the family enjoys it too. January 2017 I took it in for a recall about the wind deflector, and took it back in April of 2017 because the seal kept popping out on the passenger side every time I opened the sunroof. I’ve had the cars below, both sunroofs, panoroofs, Targa and vert’s 1:42. In fact may I recommend a Bicycle instead….. However, I have never even opened my sunroof on my current car, and the glass just doesn’t seem as safe as metal. Did MB replace yours? I’m waiting on parts to have it replaced. It was a must-have after growing accustomed to the light in the car after driving a Alfa-Romeo Brera. My ancient Audi 100S, back in the 70’s had a leaky sunroof. I have a 2013 Hyundai Elantra GT with the panoramic roof. I suspect that most sunroofs do have one, but if it’s a flimsy shield compounded with a much larger panoramic size, this might be an issue. I love the idea of a skyroof but with all these issues, probably better (for the hip pocket as well) to do without! But how do I find the top model I enjoy and trust without the stupid glass in the roof?! It was a well worn limited edition….Shouldn’t have bought it ,but there weren’t many around. I just got a VW Tiguan with one and was feeling a tiny bit concerned for its usage and safety. Do you ever considered there was an alternative to that motorized panoramic sunroof, called moonroof? Wheeler Dealers: Mike Brewer’s side of the story, The 100 Best Top Gear Episodes Ever (Pt3). If its a B class yes Mercedes only sell the whole assembly as one part and yes its around $8600 plus a reseal kit $240 the whole swap can be done under 6 hours including cleaning up the opening for the new seal kit . The issue I run into is that the models I like all have sun roofs, moon roofs, or the panoramic. Am building an MB E400 sedan in white, and really like the panoramic’s exterior black top on the white. I have had one on a Cadillac for 17 years with zero problems. So when I buy a new car next year I will grab a 2017 Sonata limited so that I can have my sunroof again. 0 0. tung. Always a pleasure when I can open it and go for a ride with family or friends all people inside love it opened. A conventional steel/aluminium roof is not only quieter, but most importantly contains nothing behind the roof lining that could rattle or break in the near future. But, there’s no need to worry. But it didn’t open up and.. heavy as that car already was, it added too much weight for it to be comfortable. That way everything is factory fitted and works as intended. I have a 2010 VW Jetta Wagen TDI that VW will buy back in the next year. We agree with your decision Rene! Don’t know what they were trying to pull, but be sure to call the warranty folks directly to have questioned answered. 10 out of 10 for me and a must have or you’ll miss all these great experiences I’ve just mention. We always parked on a hill with the front of the car pointing down. Having a panoramic sunroof fitted to your vehicle could be the equivalent of having an additional passenger in your car – permanently. I close the automatic inside cover during the day when parking outside (in Texas) so my interior doesn’t get hot but park at home inside my garage. Off warranty means open your wallet. I have the roof open in winter to enjoy the sunshine & have the heater on – the warm air swirls around my feet to my shoulders & I still get to enjoy the ‘outdoor’ feeling. You could write an article like this for like everything in your life: kids, pet, house, flat, swimming pool… etc. It has a panoramic sunroof. ... even during a rollover. Thanks! But tbh, the reason I’m here is that it has just developed a hard-to-find rattle which is seemingly coming from the sunroof, only when tilted up. Retracting the sunshade or opening the sunroof often doesn’t fix the issue, either, as the opening itself doesn’t go far enough across in relation to where the driver’s head is located. In the summertime it s amazing and it adds to a more voluminous feeling in the car. Now we wouldn’t blame you for thinking that optioning a panoramic sunroof in your vehicle would give you more headroom, but this simply isn’t the case. I make sure my Skoda dealer pays particular attention to the lube & drain cleaning requirements of my roof at each service, & I’ve hd no trouble at all. It started making sqeeching sound every time it goes over a speed breakers. I googled it and found a few people who experienced issues – you’re rolling the dice so your particular car might be fine… or it might not be! Hyundai explains that the panoramic sunroof airbag will deploy if the sensor detects the turning angle of the vehicle is changed because of a rollover. Factors Affecting Ejection Risk in Rollover Accidents and Crashes. Like a convertible, a panoramic sunroof by design is an ‘all or nothing’ proposition. When they go wrong, they can go very seriously wrong. Okay, you talked me out of it. 2005 Mini Cooper 2dr Hatchback PANORAMIC ROOF, 70K MILES!!! Just yesterday I had it retracted all the way back and when coming to close it…nothing. I am a physician and also run a “Business of Kindness.” This glass – top van is to be used for our residents to get them out of the confines of the building during the long winter months. However, the growing trend of massive sun/moonroofs that take up nearly the entire top of a car could be cause for concern. I was considering getting a Merc, the GLE Suv. Although not worth the extra cost, they are great for kids to look out when doing safaris or national park loops. Not worth the possible hassles. The 100 Best Top Gear Episodes Ever (Pt2), Wheeler Dealers to return in 2019 with 8 new episodes. If you can get it fixed cheaply and sell the car off you might get more money back than if you leave the gaffa tape on there. Waaaay too numerous to mention here. According to National Highway Traffic Safety Administration data, 260 passengers were thrown through a vehicle's sunroof in rollover accidents reported between 2000 and 2015. Has anyone that has this same car or knows anyone with this car had any problems with leaks or explosions? I would not have purchased the car if I’d known of this issue. We pulled over and the man circled back to us. Never again will I purchase a car with any hole in the roof. Yes, it gives an open airy feeling but with all the other issues of weight, mechanical malfunction, exploding glass and squeaks and rattles – decided not to order it on a new X1 arriving soon. I have a good friend in the glass tinting business, I had him tint the underside of the panoroof in my E550 and as well the fixed roof panel in my Smart car. it’s ironic babe….. relax….. grow a couple brain cells, maybe think before you speak, Purchased a, Believe It or Not, 2021 Kia Sportage SX. Anybody ever try a dark window tint on the inside? On the test drive I did not notice undue noise but several days after purchasing it I detected a whistling wind noise. Sounds like a terrifying thing to deal with while you’re doing 70mph! Think about it like this. The entire Sunroof Frame with rear top glass, brand new, in the crate from the factory at a Ford dealer about 12hrs (drive time) north. Mike Brewer on how Edd China left Wheeler Dealers. Sean, you might never hear about the physical concept “thermal capacity” otherwise you won’t say the “incredible amount of heat to build up in the space in-between.” That heat amount is completely negligible, period. Also sun is a great issue in England we get it about 2 months of the year and then it’s freezing. And in the winter, the same warming from keeping the shade open can be a benefit. Actually, Josh Ready’s is THE best reply on this forum!! I doubt it would affect the shell strength but I don’t know how you’d do it. Given the high price paid for such a prestige car, I would have expected much better. I am looking at preowned Audis Q5 or 7…dont think it will be easy one without a sunroof. ALYN BREWIS NICE CARS FOR SALE Peugeot 207 1.4 Sport, Low Mileage, Panoramic Roof, Full History. Btw, a moonroof is a fixed glass panel in the roof. 7 ways to extend the life of your car battery, How to fix faded black plastic trim in 15 minutes, How is a car battery made? Luckily it was still under warranty…barely. I love the sun’s warmth and joyous qualities beyond the mere view. But the rise of panoramic sunroofs has also precipitated a rise in consumer complaints about the safety issues they pose – namely, a reduction in vehicle rollover strength, and the danger of spontaneously shattering glass. A much greater number of passengers were ejected through the sunroof or moonroof compared to side windows. Funnily enough, after replying here i’ve started noticing a Mercedes-Benz ad appearing on websites I’ve been visiting, stating “Always request an authorised Mercedes-Benz repairer. About the biggest safety concern with a moon roof I have, is if it gets knocked out in a rollover, and an unrestrained driver is ejected through the vehicle. Mr_Thrifty Users Awaiting Email Confirmation. Additional Noise & Mechanical Issues Question about safety of panoramic sunroof! Accelerator pedal failed, replaced entire steering column, replaced entire exhaust, computer and back-up camera decided if and when to function. I use it as much as possible here in New England, often times I’ll have it open with hear cranking too. Complete ejections could be virtually eliminated with the use of laminated glass that doesn’t shatter and the use of seatbelts and deployed curtain airbags. Ceramic window tinting helps heat reduction. I have a Range Rover Vogue, 11 months old, with a non opening panoramic glass roof. I think it sounds like a pretty crazy idea. My experience with my 2016 GMC, along with my fear of making payments on a car while making huge repairs to it frequently, are driving my decision to purchase a vehicle from companies I trust. I’m looking to buy a new car soon, I will miss the sunroof, but only for the openness. I love the sunroofs I’d go fully convertible if I want the top down. The engine is most needed for the car to operate. I purchased the vehicle because it has AWD and did NOT have the pesky sun roof or panoramic roof. Loved my panoramic roof on Jag fpace, however it had the tiniest stone chip that I didn’t know was there until a loud crack whilst driving. It happened again. Hyundai says that panoramic sunroofs are becoming standard in new cars and in case of a rollover accident, passengers' heads and limbs could end up going through the big glass opening, leading to serious injury. Houston, Texas 77056. I live in Queensland so the heat is the only one thing that might be a drawback, however it does have a hard lined sliding internal cover which I think makes all the difference. If the cabin feels a little warm when you are driving, then opening the sunroof can let in more of the air from the outside. I’m sure there are plenty of happy panoramic sunroof owners out there, but as you discovered, buying a vehicle with one does come with its fair share of risks. Well it depends on personal preferences, for me I can’t imagine the beauty of my Mercedes without the panoramic roof, it gives the car a looks and sexiness. Panoramic glass sunroofs are covered as standard ‘Loss or damage’ claims, so are subject to the Accidental damage policy excess with my insurer. I don’t think there’s any difference between the two. Thanks in advance. “NAIL……ON…….THE…….HEAD”. You do hear about panoramic roofs exploding occasionally, but the issue seems fairly uncommon. Suffice it to say, it’s great when it works, but is destined to fail. Everything happened do fast but I saw that the wind deflector came apart. Unfortunately, mine was just outside the parameters and I had to pay to be sorted out. And the warranty people WILL take note. It’s a deal-breaker without it. I am a Pastor and like to seen by angels when on the road, panoramic roof helps a lot to be seen in heaven and for me to see heavens, stars and the galaxy – the awesome work of the Lord, I like to see the rain or snow come down from top – it gives some kind of sensation to enjoy life. Dont listen to the negative comments I love my panoramic sunroof!! They do not (and neither to many others) cover the panoramic roof on the glass policy. On the other hand, it will also get colder inside more quickly during winter due to the panel of glass than if it were a metal roof. No noise, no leaks, no explosions, no structural problems, no heat that is unmanageable, etc. I will not consider a car without one. The Mercedes is worth it for me. Best reply on this forum!! Including draining the side plugs (again, had to remind VW service to have that done since everything was already torn apart for the new sunshade replacement & motor & rails. I did not realize that the small sunroof is so popular. 2 years of issues and now 2 weeks of not being able to use the car. In addition, service attempted to tell ME the warranty was only good upto 60,000 miles. I can only hope there are no large repair bills in the future. 0. As of 2011, more than 33% of new vehicles sold or made available in the U.S. featured a sunroof, a number the Wall Street Journal cites as a fourfold jump from 1990. I have never had a problem with it – so that’s over 22 years of solid performance – no cracks, no leaks, no motor failure. We purchased a 2011 MKX three years ago (with about 60k miles on it). The biggest problem is harsh weather, The temperatures sometimes gets down to -40. The sunroof airbag is designed to prevent the passengers from spilling out in a rollover, and during crash tests conducted with dummies Hyundai found that it can also reduce serious head injuries. I had not heard about any of them exploding, and assume it is a rare thing. I have a 2013 Optima and despite hating the car over all, I LOVE the panoramic roof. The pano sunroof motor on my 55,000km Superb has gone. I have a Skoda Yeti with a panoramic sunroof, which is only closed when parked..I love having it open, at all speeds, during all seasons; the only thing that makes me keep it closed is pouring rain! And on top of that, because it’s new, and we purchased it from a Ford dealer, we get the 24 month manufacturer’s warranty on the part. So, it is a great car but caution is urged if having a car with Panasonic sunroof. I think I will go with the latter. Everyone is talking about the sunroof, though my Toyota Highlander 2017 has a panoramic moonroof? Am considering the purchase of a new Tiguan with the panoramic sunroof but am concerned about leakage/breakage problems with a sunroof this size. They are all made in Japan by the same three companies. I live in Phoenix, AZ and here its not rare to see them hit 115 f with some days getting to 117 f. The local news did a short segment where they left a car outside during the day and put a thermometer inside and the temperature in the car reached 160 f something with a hot spot of 175 f ish on the dashboard/front of the car. It was a great and useful read. I made the mistake of buying a GMC with AWD and have had 3 large repairs replaced under warranty within the first 30k miles! 2016 and 2008 Mazda Miatas to name a few So would I ever buy a car with a pano roof again…NO!! Lovely airy and open feel when driving. Don’t ever buy a modern day car with an Engine. I love my Golf7 sunroof too. This was 6 weeks ago, am in Lewes, Sussex UK. Hyundai’s new airbags might stop you from launching out of your panoramic sunroof in a crash. Eventually we do get it closed (sometimes an hour or two later after car restarts and tinkering with the control). I am 6′ tall and have no problem with Headroom. Glass/Sun shade are over my head so when shade back i do get additional head clearance. But the best part is, car can only be booked in on January 4th 2017, and there is absolutely no manual override. Allied Market Research has estimated the “global automotive panoramic sunroof industry” sat at $1.31 billion in 2018 but would hit $4.26 billion by 2026. Have had a VW with panaoramic sunroof for about 8 years with no problems. My Honda Accord Estate is reasonably quiet and not too drafty at speed and I typically open the roof unless it is raining. Also, sadly, I experienced a sunroof shatter when a stone hit it. Despite vehicle improvements and features like electronic stability control, injuries and deaths due to rollover ejections remain a serious problem for the motor industry. I live in NJ I’ve had zero problems, noise or complaints about my sunroof. Sunroof I have the Golf for 4 years now from a brand new car I never had a sunroof malfunction or water intake, never ever, simply perfect optional VW item. 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